Xtreamer (Media Player & Streamer)

robku

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Jest nowe oprogramowanie do prodigy. Może ktoś zaryzykuje i zainstaluje?


A to z oficjalnego info od Xtreamera:
Dear Friends and Community members,

We are releasing you in this post the 1186 SDK firmware for Comparison

Our first line in this post will be an applogy for the length and seriousness the way thing are written. We feel it is our obligation to come foreward and clarify with you some points.

Actually we have many reasons to apologize to our customers but this will be more or less cleared out in this text.

Those of you who we gave up on apologizing to or making them see the facts for what they are we simply suspended. We felt that a group of maybe 100 people is taking over and changing the atmosphere we are trying to create here.

The Goal


This post is aimed to put this entire community in perspective . It is aimed formost to our Xtreamer Prodigy users. However the info that we share here is regarded to you all. The FW we will publish here is just for Xtreamer Prodigy. Other Xtreamer devices owners should not attempt use it on their devices as it will brick your device on the spot.

We have decided to apply this time a little different strategy for the coming firmware release and share with you an SDK based firmware straight from RealTek labs.

The latest and most updated version actually.

While we could release you a Youtube video with split screens to make the comparison between our firmware and the RTL SDK, we rather insisted this time for you to see it with your own eyes on your own TV and gear.

This is the latest SDK build - around which our new firmware will be built and published. Future updates will use this SDK or newer versions of it as the case may be.

This SDK based firmware is the way RealTek wanted you to use your devices in 2012. For good or Bad. You will decide.

We make this post as we believe that if you will see our firmware in comparison to this one you will be proud to own an xtreamer device.

OEM competing platforms

2 facts you should know as a basis for this open discussion we open here in this thread.

Fact #1 : SDK firmware is the reference on which ALL products of Realtek are build around.

Fact #2 : All China based OEM use just this FW as their device firmware. Sometime with slightly changed GUI sometime without.

This is the way and method China is releasing many so called digital media players into the market based on Realtek chipsets. The put this or similar FW we are releasing you now and call it a "device".

This is the main source of OEM products ibood or other forums are "reviewing" . Today there are probably 100 "brands" like this.

Anyone of you who want with small extra money aside and which are ready for investment - to make an OEM product on his own - based on Realtek is doing just that.

With no R&D or real vision or effort. They all seems to wait RTL SDK firmware, burn it on the chip and pack around some plastic with logo and call it a product.

This was probably the root of our disagreement with MPC club. While some members their applause Med8ter and others we have good reason to laugh. Now you will have also.

When Gariabald75 made 10 videos of comparison in his Youtube channel to show you detailed comparison of each product in the market (Xtreamer4dummies) some of you forgot.

SDK Firmware what does it mean ?

Once you will see with your own eyes what is an SDK and what we are talking about in its development span, the criticism in this forum for our progress with Xtreamer systems and firmware will be put in its right perspective. We are positive and sure about it.

We believe anyone of you will be able to appreciate our efforts in few clicks and short time experience with this SDK firmware in comparison to ours. It will give you all a short visit to other platforms.

For those who come here to our forums and contaminate the atmosphere we try to build here and want to talk or preach us about eGreat, IconBit, Himedia, AC Ryan, Med8ter, Brightview or anything else made inCchina or built around SDK FW...you will be able to experience their base system on your xtreamer prodigy and be able to tell the difference to your machine in a very short time.. And please tell. To us. To your friends and to others.

The studious members of this community are called to list the bugs in this SDK and list it here if you want. To layout the shortcomings, and their views about its total overall performance.

You will see yourself why it takes so long to release a new firmware and how big is the effort we make to make a difference with the SDK and others. In our view it is simply un-acceptable to release a product to the market this way.

Trying to make a difference

Making a difference in functionality, specs and firmware overall performance while keeping the price as low as anything else coming from China (that comes bare naked with SDK FW) will be proven to you clearly as justifying our company slogan.

We make this effort now, just before releasing you an open beta of our firmware later this week. This open beta will be open to all prodigy users and will bring to you all the so many new features and bug fixes you all expect from us.

The next firmware we will release to you will be an open beta and will be code named version 3.0.3 . We will make it available for free download this monday or soon after it.

For now...take the time, download this SDK firmware version, flash your device with it, learn it, explore it, and re-flash back to our new beta coming this week.

This thread is not about the new beta for prodigy nor it is about the new features it included and the difference we make. We will post a new dedicated thread for that .

We just wanted to "enlighten" you with a new point of view, a more balanced one as to the market.

New Perspective

While all of you can reasonably expect that Realtek made progress in newer SDK versions they are releasing from time to time , we rather wanted to show you that things are not so accurate. The grass on other platforms is not so much greener as it seems sometime. in many aspects, developing around Realtek SDK firmware means 1 step foreword and few steps back.

When we debug it, sometime with their help or co-operation they make out of our joint effort a new SDK version available to all our china competitors. Your input is appreciated and used as well. It happend last year just before Christmas where some Chinese developers where introducing a new SDK firmware built around some major efforts we made . We feel that sometime they simply ignore or just could not care less some bugs, therefore allowing the market to balance itself around price and expectations.

For us, all along, It is always an ongoing debugging process for bugs and defects that should have never being their on the first place. Changing SDK means in practice re-coding the entire system from zero. it is not a copy and paste process of few lines of code. We wish it was.

Reality is that SDK for 1186 platform is build around SDK of 1185 and 1283. The hardware specs difference sometime dont allow to achieve more function or better performace on older platforms. So they make a new one to replace it. Anyway, in our eyes it seems that anyway progress is our joint goal . Older platforms cannot achieve same functionality is mainly due to low motivation of the chipset vendor to allow it.

Sometime, and actually quite often we found out that fixing some bug is related to some binary file who was already compiled by RTL labs and we dont have access to its sources. The result is that we have to wait for them to include our fix on a new SDK version which necessitates us sometime to start the firmware re-build from zero only to find out that new bugs that where not existing in older SDK are found.

Now you will see with your eyes what Realtek wanted to offer you. Anyone who come foreword and want to "teach us a lesson" or put us in our place will be able to be referred to this thread and FW and SDK .

The situation for 1186 chip is not different from others. We are under the impression that when RTL see a product SDK maturing with some noticeable progress or real added value they have made in their R&D labs --> they simply make a new CHIP with SDK that is applied only to this "new chip" leaving older cpu feel like if they are hang high up in the air.

While we are on your side, we still get the arrows and the poisonous critics. Our own efforts or progress in comparison to the original SDK is nearly un-noticed.

The situation with development with SIGMA or other semi-conductor companies who offer CPU for digital media playback is not any better. Sometime worse.

Development of Firmware in real life

Please note, whatever we do on RTL based system we do with 1 hand tight. RTL never release to us the full source code or binaries to fix everything we want or need.

They also never release it to the public nor they communicate anything to you directly.

We share this info in Skype daily with our Global Moderators. Some of you know or heard about this already. It is time this info will go public.

We are at the line of fire being constantly yet wrongfully blamed.

All our china competitors and small OEM projects, who suffer very much the same or sometime much more from the unstable SDK firmware or bugs are managing somehow to fade away the bad reports about their device performance amongst many forums and venues.

Unlike with Xtreamer which channel it all from all parts of the world into 1 forum platforms or Facebook page in multiple languages. While we could easily shut down the forums and apply same way of thinking, we rather wanted to see in you all as partners to this journey. To listen to our customers ideas, suggestions and input and put it into the development roadmap. We believe that the customer know best .

Realtek is still the best option

To put this info in the right context we do must admit however, that RTL CPU and functionality is giving the market probably the best price vs value ratio. In many aspects it is the best platform as of today for digital media players and streamer. It does not mean we are blind to what is going on with Sigma Designes or others. We do active research and development on other platforms made by SMP, Cortex, Boradcom and Texas Instruments, and we can tell you clear that for now RTL is probably the best for your needs. It is offering you a full rich media playback experience for a very balanced and good price.

If you want to show us a better device based on Realtek please do . If you want to show us better firmware for Realtek based devices please do . If you are able to tell the difference between Iconbit, Himedia to any other OEM product ..please do. Or better be silent forever.


Everything else are just marketing and market differentiation efforts.

Any product can be better and should be better. When it is slightly better companies tend to charge you more. When they employ so many engineers and developers they want a return for their investments. Their products are normally so much more expensive and for a good reason. Our products, are still better and prices are still lower or same. The prices of our devices don't allow us big margin to build around it a Windows 7 like size of a system.

We see Sidewinder 2 clients coming into our forums and cry loud for what it seems grave injustice done to them. Show them price they paid for their product, Show them SDK FW snapshots and educate them with how their product is so much better than any alternative. Prove them for how superb their machine is in comparison to what they should have got should we make our FW based on SDK only.

The Dilema

The dilema these days in our company board room is simple : We can simply abandon RTL platforms. We could more easily just release you SDK FW like this one we publish now and maybe change a little the GUI like med8ter or AC ryan is doing. We could do even less by releasing you just SDK Firmware updates when RTL will release it. In such case none of your complaints will be directed at us while all of you will be left to communicate your experience to them directly. The decision was made. We will not. We will continue to improve our devices and perfect them as much as it will be made possible . Once RTL is abandoning the development of one of its platforms we are the victims very much as you are. If we could continue develop your old 1283 machines and make you all enjoy 1 level of functionality we would have done it . That comes without question.


Some concrete examples :


(1) Adobe Flash was promised and delivered on 1186. Maybe most of you dont even know it. It is hidden and not much discussed. As a matter of fact your music player is built in Flash: Flash 8. Flash-lite version 3. That is as far as RTL CPU can carry it . In the meantime Adobe announced no more updates to Flash and we can do nothing more about it.

(2) Our firmware introduces to you Airplay, Subtitle browser, PHP coding, SQL, Jukbeox navigation's, better graphical user interface, language optimization, Android optimization, and a 1000 other tweaks and fixes. The Firmware SDK is in many aspects a lot much more primitive and basic in comparisonTto ours. You dont want to believe us?. .. Try the SDK and see with your own eyes. Remember when you do...that this is China. this is "the neighbor's greener grass"

(3) Community jukebox made by the team of developers of this community required us on the 1283 platform to make for them 22 betas. In 22 firmware in which we followed their exact requests we aimed to meet this community developers requests . 1 months after it was released to you on version 2.4 it was abandoned by them due to the overwhelming amount of poison some un grateful members of this community where able to generate.

6 months of expensive RD effort in our side went down to the drain. Does this jukebox work? Yes, it does, with some bugs and limited functionality . But it does. Way better than NMJ version 1 which was published by PCH for a product they charged the market for 320 euro - their c-200. Can it be developed more now? Yes, it can be and it should be as the sources are all open and ready for everyone. Just do it and we will help.

(4) Xtreamer Live project. 2 years ago a brillant member of this community called CAP joined the forums. He is a coder and enthusiasts who started to aggregate many HTTP links and made of it the xtreamer live project. Most of you enjoy it even today. We worked with him on this project. The project was copied with no credit to all chinese competitor products. Once he saw he is nearly alone in the effort of keeping it alive while being constantly subjected to poisonous trolls activity he left. And now only Daniel Dsapac and Repoman try in their way keep it alive. Can your "old" 1283/1185 devices be enhanced further with this project? YES it can. Should this community do it? YES it should. It is an exciting way to extend the basic functionally of the device.

(5) Xtreamer VOD. 1 year ago a guy from spain came foreward with his friend and published on the spanish forums of xtreamer an exciting project who enabled streaming from Megaupload. With our help and close guidance he published the XVOD project. Again, no one could care less for poor maicros. And he left. Same questions we have raised above apply here also.

(6) "Xtreamer fails to keep their promises" and ongoing mantra some of you tend recently to apply . We did promise version 3 with new SDK Casablanca for all our products. We made a mistake by relying on RTL courtesy to honor its old customers. We made the mistake of relying on their ability to meet the market need on time with a ready to use platform and had to upgrade your HW on our expense 3 times . We suffered delays and when we got it few months before it was ready we could not agree to what we saw. Now you have 10 time more advanced SDK FW to imagine how primitive the SDK was without android and DVB-t. This delay cost us to send on our expense to all European customer the devices from inside Europe. Saving each of you around 100 euro of taxes and trouble. But who remembers? ! It happened in ancient times....2 month ago.

The Road-Map

Our talented R&D and designers teams are doing endless efforts to debug an improve your prodigy firmware. This effort will be found beneficial to all our new devices based around 1186 CPU. It is a day and night on going process with 1 hand tied behind the back. It feels so bad to see this forum not be able to appreciate it enough.

Now you will see the difference with your own eyes.

Version 3.5 and version 4 soon after it will make your device the best product in DMP market. For whatever price and specs.

You dont have in your home and not expected to have 50 models of digital media players and streamers. We do.

Trust us on this, the NMT c-300, Boxee or HDI Dune are not better and still sold for so much more. For 400 Euro you can get a new PCH c-300 that comes even without a WIFI. Short visit on NMT forums will teach you that last update was made 6 months ago.

Please dont let the trolls, the winers, the pessimists and those kind of people who assume we married them for 99 Euro product, to overcome these forums and take over.

Being leaders in this market, announcing products first and accumulating such a big audience around our products made us take the fire and be in the front line for so many reasons beyond our power or control.

This community is not for us. It is for you. It is for letting you all come and enjoy this hobby and share with us this road . Our company is not making just 1 product every year. We do try to provide you all an overall insight and access to this market as users the way you want, at as flexible budget target as possible.

We are welcoming you all to post here a full report of your experience with this SDK FW made by RTL, take and publish here snapshots of it, and make comparison videos as you may want.

As far as we are concerned, this is a joint road we took from day 1 with our clients.

It is our duty and pleasure to make you all enjoy your devices more. The way things turning now with this group of never to be pleased users taking over the forums, it becomes only a duty.

Our R&D developers are people just like you. We told you many times on many posts, we all share the same passion, for them coming to the forums these days is not so much more fun or pleasure. Even if you report a bug, it is not a problem. Just do it in civil way. And if you see someone over-reacting or being emotional to the fact that his torrent client fail to work as he anticipated, just put him in his place or simply send him to read a book or play in the traffic.

Now some technical info for this FW release :

(1) This FW is not using the same Remote control key set as your Xtreamer FW.

Use in your Xtreamer RC the following keys for navigation.

Audio = Right
ENTER = Left
Record = ENTER

(2) To install just download and copy it to the root of a USB stick.
* Go to your Prodigy, turn it off by unplugging the power cord for few sec.
* Put the cord back but dont power the machine as yet.
* Plug the USB stick at the back of the Prodigy,
* When the machine is OFF press the power button for 5 sec (you will see that the blue LED light is turning on but still keep your finger pressed on the power button until the power led is turning off).
* When its turning off you can release your finger and let it start flash the firmware.

Do not power off the machine while the update process is taking place. If you do you will brick your device and we will not honor it as RMA. If you are not sure what you are doing just dont do it.
Prodigy SDK firmware

We wish you all a pleasnt stay in our forums, we want you on our side.
 

miloniu

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Nowy użytkownik MK1 prośba o pomoc

Witam wszystkich. Jestem nowym użytkownikiem MK1. Kupiłem go głównie do oglądania, ale jest też sporo innych opcji...i tu sięzaczyna spory problem - do czengo one służą, jak je włączyć/obejzec ich zasoby.
a mianowicie - chodzi o dział Xtreamering, tam sa takie rzeczy jak MusikJukeBox, JukeBox, Xtreamer Live, MyXlive etc - gdziekolwiek nie wejde to nie mogę nic obejżeć, a bynajmniej większości. Znalazłem gdzieś YouTube - nie da się nic włączyć, inne podobne np.Discovery etc.również nie mogę włączyć.
Druga sprawa to radio - jest tam sporo stacji, ale niektóre z nich się w ogóle nie włączają, czasem jest tak,że uda sie jedną włączyć, ale jak przejdę do następnych i wrócę do tej, to ta też już nie działa, a czasem player złapie zwieche. Właśnie mi się zrobił czarny ekran,zamrożony na 5s.po chwili pokazało się menu i że na nowo wykrył kartę Wifi (bo takowa jest zainstalowana).
Jakieś dziwne hece się chyba dzieją. Poproszę znawców tego sprzętu o poczytanie tych dolegliwosci i wypowiedzenie się, moze wspólnie uda się coś wymysleć.
Nadmienię że kupiłem "seconhand", soft 2.7.0 (czy jest dobry??).
Pozdrawiam forumowiczów.
 

miloniu

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Dzięki za odpowiedź. Wiem żepytanie jest bardzo przekrojowe, bo napisałem o tym, czego doswiadczyłem bawiąc się playerem. Liczę ze każdy kto cos wie, to coś napisze odnośnie tych powiedzmy "problemów".
 

Kirek50

Moderator
Bez reklam
Przywracam temat autorstwa Vaderusa przez pomyłkę przeniesiony.

W marcu zapowiadana jest obiecująca premiera nowego Xtreamer Ultra 2.
Tym razem, nie powinno być problemów z audio po hdmi - w końcu ma być bit-streaming (nie będzie potrzeby dekodowania do lpcm).
Zapowiedzi są piękne... jak zwykle... zobaczymy co z tego wyjdzie.
Osobiście kibicuję i myślę, że warto śledzić temat.... mimo, że to "słynny" xtreamer...

Więcej tutaj: Xtreamer 2012 Announcements
a kolejne forum tu: Xtreamer Ultra 2 - AVS Forum
 

miloniu

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Zdażyło się komuś zeby player się zawieszał tak że nic nie da się zrobic?? Pomaga mu tylko odłączenie z pradu. Dzieje się tak kiedy korzystam z xIpla lub xLIve.
 
Pomocy,
mam iXtreamer'a i nie moge na nim ogladac normalnie filmow MKV. Obraz jest strasznie migoczacy przy roznych scenach, robi sie dziwny przeplot, strasznie irytujace. Wyglada tak jakby mial problemy z dekodowaniem.
Mam najnowszy firmware, w necie nie moge znalesc odpowiedzi czy da sie cos z tym zrobic.
moze ktos sie z tym spotkal i wie co robic ?
 

sihborx

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Witam
Czy jest jakiś osobny wątek nt SideWinder3?

Jeśli nie to pozwólcie, że tutaj sie zapytam:

Do zeszłego tygodnia byłem szczęśliwym posiadaczem Xtreamer SideWinder 1 ale przyszedł czas na zmiany i w ten oto sposób wylądował u mnie Xtreamer SideWinder3 :)

Jestem na etapie testów więc na razie za wiele nie mogę powiedzieć. Jak na razie jest ok..... no może po za jednym
Nie wiem dlaczego w niektórych filmach napisy mam bez polskich znaków? W ustawieniach mam tak samo jak jedynce czyli :
- język pl
- kodowanie- środkowoeuropejski
Jakieś pomysły ???????
pozdrawiam
 

RAMZES72

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W niektórych filmach napisy są bez polskich znaków ponieważ kodowane są jako UTF-8. W ustawieniach Xtreamera należy wówczas przełączyć na UTF-8 (aby mieć znaki pl) lub 'przekonwertować' plik z napisami (lub wiele plików na raz "hurtowo") na środkowoeuropejski (1250) - lub na odwrót. Trzeba po prostu "trzymać się" jednego rodzaju kodowania.
p.s. polecam program 'Gżegżółka XP'
 

janek58

Member
Witam. Jestem po raz pierwszy na tym forum i mam problem. Posiadam Xtreamer Media Player & Streamer i nagle przestał odtwarzać dźwięk. Obraz jest w porządku ale brak dźwięku. Odtwarzam filmy z pendrive'a, który jest ok bo po podłączeniu bezpośrednio do tv jest i obraz i dźwięk. Odtwarzacz podłączony jest do tv przez hdmi. Stało się to nagle. Proszę o pomoc.
 

BundyPL

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Witam

Chciałem ostatnio na moim xtreamerze sidewinder obejrzeć coś na youtube ale zaraz jak wszedłem w xtreaming to wywaliło mi okienko o aktualizacji. Po ściągnięciu niby się zaktualizowało, wchodzę do xtreaming, szukam youtube a tu nigdzie nie ma, jakby wcięło. Wydaje mi się, był w okolicach xFacebook a teraz nima :) Okazuje się też że aktualizacja chyba się nie zapisała bo jak sprawdzam to dalej mi pokazuje że jest do ściągnięcia. Ktoś miał coś podobnego?

Z góry dzięki
Pozdrawiam
 

PiotrM_

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Pewnie korzystasz z dysku zewnętrznego? U mnie działo się tak, gdy zbyt szybko po odpaleniu Xtreamera wchodziłem od razu w Xtreamering, przez co player nie zdążył zbootować dysku i nie widział, że aplikacje są już zainstalowane. Aby temu zapobiec, trzeba chwilę odczekać na głównej stronie, aż zapali się na samym dole kontrolka od USB.
Youtube nie działa i nie będzie działać "po staremu".
Dosyć prosty sposób na YT jest opisany na tym forum: http://forum.xtreamer.net/topic/18778-dsapactv/ (trzeba się zarejestrować, tekst po angielsku).
 

trzyczasowy

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napisy ustaw na słowenie

Witam
Czy jest jakiś osobny wątek nt SideWinder3?

Jeśli nie to pozwólcie, że tutaj sie zapytam:

Do zeszłego tygodnia byłem szczęśliwym posiadaczem Xtreamer SideWinder 1 ale przyszedł czas na zmiany i w ten oto sposób wylądował u mnie Xtreamer SideWinder3 :)

Jestem na etapie testów więc na razie za wiele nie mogę powiedzieć. Jak na razie jest ok..... no może po za jednym
Nie wiem dlaczego w niektórych filmach napisy mam bez polskich znaków? W ustawieniach mam tak samo jak jedynce czyli :
- język pl
- kodowanie- środkowoeuropejski
Jakieś pomysły ???????
pozdrawiam
napisy ustaw na słowenie
 

nordof

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Elvira

Witam. Kupiłem Elvirę i mam mieszane uczucia. Sprzęt prosty z przeznaczeniem użytkowania przez rodziców. Jednak napisy do filmu nie ładują się automatycznie,za skarby nie umiem zmienić widoku mp3 z all na foldery. Do tego wszystkiego mimo dania mu 4 godzin na indeksowanie nadal czasem robi restart przy próbie uruchomienia plików wideo. Daje mu i sobie :) jeszcze kilka dni.
 

maks1910

Member
Witam

Zakupiłem dziś używanego Xtreamera (Media Player & Streamer). Wszystko działa ok. Mam zamontowany dysk SATA 2,5 cala, który bardzo szybko wczytuje pliki wszelkiego rodzaju.

Mam tylko jeden problem, chodzi mi o aktualizacje Przeglądania INTERNETU (Xtremering), mianowicie , gdy tam wchodzę to pokazuje mi się żółty monit, że mam zaktualizować program i wcisnąć 1. OK wciskam łącze się i następuje pobieranie ok 67 mb. Po pobraniu aplikacji następuje pytanie czy zainstalować aktualizację. OK instaluje się, następuje powrót do głównego menu i gdy wchodzę znów do Xtreamering to mam to samo, żółty monit informujący, że mam zaktualizować soft.

Czyli niby pobieram aktualizacje ona się instaluje i nic z tego, może mi ktoś pomóc.
 

pejotwroc

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Sprawdź czy masz najnowsze firmware. Jeżeli nie to ściągnij sobie najnowsze oprogramowanie ze strony Xtreamer.net. Wgrywasz je na pendrive i postepujesz wg opisu na stronie producenta.
 

maks1910

Member
Wgrałem najnowszy firmware, w sumie nie potrzebnie bo był już najnowszy i nadal mam to samo. Okno żółte wsciśnij 1 aby zaktualizować Xtreamering do wersji 1.33.
Proszę o pomoc....


P.S. robię tak jak tu jest napisane...
"To upgrade Xtreamering please go to Xtreamering -> Disclaimer and press 1.
You need to upgrade the section to use new features in this Firmware"

I dalej nici
 
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